Synthisophy
Skinwalkers - Chapter 18
The following are direct quotes from the book Tribe, On Homecoming and Belonging, by Sebastian Junger, May 2016, except for statements in italic added.
The ultimate act of disaffiliation isn’t littering or fraud, of course, but violence against your own people. When the Navajo Nation—the Diné, in their language—were rounded up and confined to a reservation in the 1860s, a terrifying phenomenon became more prominent in their culture. The warrior skills that had protected the Diné for thousands of years were no longer relevant in this dismal new era, and people worried that those same skills would now be turned inward, against society. That strengthened their belief in what were known as skinwalkers, or yee naaldlooshii.
Skinwalkers were almost always male and wore the pelt of a sacred animal so that they could subvert that animal’s powers to kill people in the community. They could travel impossibly fast across the desert and their eyes glowed like coals and they could supposedly paralyze you with a single look. They were thought to attack remote homesteads at night and kill people and sometimes eat their bodies. People were still scared of skinwalkers when I lived on the Navajo Reservation in 1983, and frankly, by the time I left, I was too.
Virtually every culture in the world has its version of the skinwalker myth. In Europe, for example, they are called werewolves (literally “man-wolf” in Old English). The myth addresses a fundamental fear in human society: that you can defend against external enemies but still remain vulnerable to one lone madman in your midst. Anglo-American culture doesn’t recognize the skinwalker threat but has its own version. Starting in the early 1980s, the frequency of rampage shootings in the United States began to rise more and more rapidly until it doubled around 2006. Rampages are usually defined as attacks where people are randomly targeted and four or more are killed in one place, usually shot to death by a lone gunman. As such, those crimes conform almost exactly to the kind of threat that the Navajo seemed most to fear on the reservation: murder and mayhem committed by an individual who has rejected all social bonds and attacks people at their most vulnerable and unprepared. For modern society, that would mean not in their log hogans but in movie theaters, schools, shopping malls, places of worship, or simply walking down the street.
Here is a list of skinwalkers, and their shooting rampages in the USA over the last 30 years. Note that from 1988 to 1997 there were 6; from 1998 to 2007 there were 9; from 2008 to 2017 there were 24. Why does it appear that over the last 10 years our society is generating a sharp increase in skinwalkers, individuals committing murder and mayhem who have rejected all social bonds and attack people at their most vulnerable and unprepared? Perhaps it is because, as Sebastion Junger stated, this “shows how completely detribalized this country has become.” Our neurological genetic predisposition, the warrior ethos, all for 1 and 1 for all, is no longer relevant in modern life. As individuals in society it appears we are now very far from our evolutionary roots.
In 2013, areport from the Congressional Research Service, known as Congress's think tank, described mass shootings as those in which shooters "select victims somewhat indiscriminately" and kill four or more people.
From: http://timelines.latimes.com/deadliest-shooting-rampages/
Mass shootings over last 30 years until October 1, 2017. And recent news from October 2 to December 31, 2017.
November 14, 2017: Rampaging through a small Northern California town, a gunman took aim on Tuesday at people at an elementary school and several other locations, killing at least four and wounding at least 10 before he was fatally shot by police, the local sheriff’s office said.
November 5, 2017: Devin Patrick Kelley carried out the deadliest mass shooting in Texas history on Sunday, killing 25 people and an unborn child at First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, near San Antonio.
October 1, 2017: 58 killed, more than 500 injured: Las Vegas
More than 50 people were killed and at least 500 others injured when a gunman opened fire at a country music festival near the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino on the Las Vegas Strip, authorities said. Police said the suspect, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock, a resident of Mesquite, Nev., was was found dead after a SWAT team burst into the hotel room from which he was firing at the crowd.
Jan. 6, 2017: 5 killed, 6 injured: Fort Lauderdale, Fla.
After taking a flight to Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport in Florida, a man retrieves a gun from his luggage in baggage claim, loads it and opens fire, killing five people near a baggage carousel and wounding six others. Dozens more are injured in the ensuing panic. Esteban Santiago, a 26-year-old Iraq war veteran from Anchorage, Alaska, has pleaded not guilty to 22 federal charges.
May 28, 2017: 8 killed, Lincoln County, Miss. A Mississippi man went on a shooting spree overnight, killing a sheriff's deputy and seven other people in three separate locations in rural Lincoln County before the suspect was taken into custody by police, authorities said on Sunday.
Sept. 23, 2016: 5 killed: Burlington, Wash.
A gunman enters the cosmetics area of a Macy’s store near Seattle and fatally shoots an employee and four shoppers at close range. Authorities say Arcan Cetin, a 20-year-old fast-food worker, used a semi-automatic Ruger .22 rifle that he stole from his stepfather’s closet.
June 12, 2016: 49 killed, 58 injured in Orlando nightclub shooting
The United States suffered one of the worst mass shootings in its modern history when 49 people were killed and 58 injured in Orlando, Fla., after a gunman stormed into a packed gay nightclub. The gunman was killed by a SWAT team after taking hostages at Pulse, a popular gay club. He was preliminarily identified as 29-year-old Omar Mateen.
Dec. 2, 2015: 14 killed, 22 injured: San Bernardino, Calif.
Two assailants killed 14 people and wounded 22 others in a shooting at the Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino. The two attackers, who were married, were killed in a gun battle with police. They were U.S.-born Syed Rizwan Farook and Pakistan national Tashfeen Malik, and had an arsenal of ammunition and pipe bombs in their Redlands home.
Nov. 29, 2015: 3 killed, 9 injured: Colorado Springs, Colo.
A gunman entered a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs, Colo., and started firing.
Police named Robert Lewis Dear as the suspect in the attacks.
Oct. 1, 2015: 9 killed, 9 injured: Roseburg, Ore.
Christopher Sean Harper-Mercer shot and killed eight fellow students and a teacher at Umpqua Community College. Authorities described Harper-Mercer, who recently had moved to Oregon from Southern California, as a “hate-filled” individual with anti-religion and white supremacist leanings who had long struggled with mental health issues.
July 16, 2015: 5 killed, 3 injured: Chattanooga, Tenn. A gunman opened fire on two military centers more than seven miles apart, killing four Marines and a Navy sailor. A man identified by federal authorities as Mohammod Youssuf Abdulazeez, 24, sprayed dozens of bullets at a military recruiting center, then drove to a Navy-Marine training facility and opened fire again before he was killed.
June 18, 2015: 9 killed: Charleston, S.C.
Dylann Storm Roof is charged with nine counts of murder and three counts of attempted murder in an attack that killed nine people at a historic black church in Charleston, S.C. Authorities say Roof, a suspected white supremacist, started firing on a group gathered at Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church after first praying with them. He fled authorities before being arrested in North Carolina.
May 23, 2014: 6 killed, 7 injured: Isla Vista, Calif.
Elliot Rodger, 22, meticulously planned his deadly attack on the Isla Vista community for more than a year, spending thousands of dollars in order to arm and train himself to kill as many people as possible, according to a report released by the Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Office. Rodger killed six people before shooting himself.
April 2, 2014: 3 killed; 16 injured: Ft. Hood, Texas
A gunman at Fort Hood, the scene of a deadly 2009 rampage, kills three people and injures 16 others, according to military officials. The gunman is dead at the scene.
Sept. 16, 2013: 12 killed, 3 injured: Washington, D.C. Aaron Alexis, a Navy contractor and former Navy enlisted man, shoots and kills 12 people and engages police in a running firefight through the sprawling Washington Navy Yard. He is shot and killed by authorities.
June 7, 2013: 5 killed: Santa Monica
John Zawahri, an unemployed 23-year-old, kills five people in an attack that starts at his father’s home and ends at Santa Monica College, where he is fatally shot by police in the school’s library.
Dec. 14, 2012: 27 killed, one injured: Newtown, Conn.
A gunman forces his way into Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn. and shoots and kills 20 first graders and six adults. The shooter, Adam Lanza, 20, kills himself at the scene. Lanza also killed his mother at the home they shared, prior to his shooting rampage.
Aug. 5, 2012: 6 killed, 3 injured: Oak Creek, Wis.
Wade Michael Page fatally shoots six people at a Sikh temple before he is shot by a police officer. Page, an Army veteran who was a “psychological operations specialist,” committed suicide after he was wounded. Page was a member of a white supremacist band called End Apathy and his views led federal officials to treat the shooting as an act of domestic terrorism.
July 20, 2012: 12 killed, 58 injured: Aurora, Colo.
James Holmes, 24, is taken into custody in the parking lot outside the Century 16 movie theater after a post-midnight attack in Aurora, Colo. Holmes allegedly entered the theater through an exit door about half an hour into the local premiere of “The Dark Knight Rises.”
April 2, 2012: 7 killed, 3 injured: Oakland
One L. Goh, 43, a former student at a Oikos University, a small Christian college, allegedly opens fire in the middle of a classroom leaving seven people dead and three wounded.
Jan. 8, 2011: 6 killed, 11 injured: Tucson, Ariz.
Jared Lee Loughner, 22, allegedly shoots Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in the head during a meet-and-greet with constituents at a Tucson supermarket. Six people are killed and 11 others wounded.
Nov. 5, 2009: 13 killed, 32 injured: Ft. Hood, Texas
Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, an Army psychiatrist, allegedly shoots and kills 13 people and injures 32 others in a rampage at Ft. Hood, where he is based. Authorities allege that Hasan was exchanging emails with Muslim extremists including American-born radical Anwar Awlaki.
April 3, 2009: 13 killed, 4 injured: Binghamton, N.Y.
Jiverly Voong, 41, shoots and kills 13 people and seriously wounds four others before apparently committing suicide at the American Civic Assn., an immigration services center, in Binghamton, N.Y.
Feb. 14, 2008: 5 killed, 16 injured: Dekalb, Ill.
Steven Kazmierczak, dressed all in black, steps on stage in a lecture hall at Northern Illinois University and opens fire on a geology class. Five students are killed and 16 wounded before Kazmierczak kills himself on the lecture hall stage.
Dec. 5, 2007: 8 killed, 4 injured: Omaha
Robert Hawkins, 19, sprays an Omaha shopping mall with gunfire as holiday shoppers scatter in terror. He kills eight people and wounds four others before taking his own life. Authorities report he left several suicide notes.
April 16, 2007: 32 killed, 17 injured: Blacksburg, Va.
Seung-hui Cho, a 23-year-old Virginia Tech senior, opens fire on campus, killing 32 people in a dorm and an academic building in attacks more than two hours apart. Cho takes his life after the second incident.
Feb. 12, 2007: 5 killed, 4 injured: Salt Lake City
Sulejman Talovic, 18, wearing a trenchcoat and carrying a shotgun, sprays a popular Salt Lake City shopping mall. Witnesses say he displays no emotion while killing five people and wounding four others.
Oct. 2, 2006: 5 killed, 5 injured: Nickel Mines, Pa.
Charles Carl Roberts IV, a milk truck driver armed with a small arsenal, bursts into a one-room schoolhouse and kills five Amish girls. He kills himself as police storm the building.
July 8, 2003: 5 killed, 9 injured: Meridian, Miss.
Doug Williams, 48, a production assemblyman for 19 years at Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Co., goes on a rampage at the defense plant, fatally shooting five and wounding nine before taking his own life with a shotgun.
Dec. 26, 2000: 7 killed: Wakefield, Mass.
Michael McDermott, a 42-year-old software tester shoots and kills seven co-workers at the Internet consulting firm where he is employed. McDermott, who is arrested at the offices of Edgewater Technology Inc., apparently was enraged because his salary was about to be garnished to satisfy tax claims by the Internal Revenue Service. He uses three weapons in his attack.
Sept. 15, 1999: 7 killed, 7 injured: Fort Worth
Larry Gene Ashbrook opens fire inside the crowded chapel of the Wedgwood Baptist Church. Worshipers, thinking at first that it must be a prank, keep singing. But when they realize what is happening, they dive to the floor and scrunch under pews, terrified and silent as the gunfire continues. Seven people are killed before Ashbrook takes his own life.
April 20, 1999: 13 killed, 24 injured: Columbine, Colo.
Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, students at Columbine High, open fire at the school, killing a dozen students and a teacher and causing injury to two dozen others before taking their own lives.
March 24, 1998: 5 killed, 10 injured: Jonesboro, Ark.
Middle school students Mitchell Johnson and Andrew Golden pull a fire alarm at their school in a small rural Arkansas community and then open fire on students and teachers using an arsenal they had stashed in the nearby woods. Four students and a teacher who tried shield the children are killed and 10 others are injured. Because of their ages, Mitchell. 13, and Andrew, 11, are sentenced to confinement in a juvenile facility until they turn 21.
Dec. 7, 1993: 6 killed, 19 injured: Garden City, N.Y.
Colin Ferguson shoots and kills six passengers and wounds 19 others on a Long Island Rail Road commuter train before being stopped by other riders. Ferguson is later sentenced to life in prison.
July 1, 1993: 8 killed, 6 injured: San Francisco
Gian Luigi Ferri, 55, kills eight people in an office building in San Francisco’s financial district. His rampage begins in the 34th-floor offices of Pettit & Martin, an international law firm, and ends in a stairwell between the 29th and 30th floors where he encounters police and shoots himself.
May 1, 1992: 4 killed, 10 injured: Olivehurst, Calif.
Eric Houston, a 20-year-old unemployed computer assembler, invades Lindhurst High School and opens fire, killing his former teacher Robert Brens and three students and wounding 10 others.
Oct. 16, 1991: 22 killed, 20 injured: Killeen, Texas
George Jo Hennard, 35, crashes his pickup truck into a Luby’s cafeteria crowded with lunchtime patrons and begins firing indiscriminately with a semiautomatic pistol, killing 22 people. Hennard is later found dead of a gunshot wound in a restaurant restroom.
June 18, 1990: 10 killed, 4 injured: Jacksonville, Fla.
James E. Pough, a 42-year-old day laborer apparently distraught over the repossession of his car, walks into the offices of General Motors Acceptance Corp. and opens fire, killing seven employees and one customer before fatally shooting himself.
Jan. 17, 1989: 5 killed, 29 injured: Stockton, Calif.
Patrick Edward Purdy turns a powerful assault rifle on a crowded school playground, killing five children and wounding 29 more. Purdy, who also killed himself, had been a student at the school from kindergarten through third grade.Police officials described Purdy as a troubled drifter in his mid-20s with a history of relatively minor brushes with the law. The midday attack lasted only minutes.
July 18, 1984: 21 killed, 19 injured: San Ysidro, Calif.
James Oliver Huberty, a 41-year-old out-of-work security guard, kills 21 employees and customers at a McDonald’s restaurant. Huberty is fatally shot by a police sniper perched on the roof of a nearby post office.
Synthisophy
Synthisophy
Integrate the Wisdoms of History into Present Culture
Addressing the polarized political climate in the USA
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President Donald Trump
Summary of Chapters 1-15, published in RAIS, August 2020; and ResearchLEAP, February 2021.
Summary of Chapters 16 - 30, published in RAIS, October, 2020, and ResearchLEAP, April 2021.
Synthisophy - Integrating the wisdoms of history into present culture
Roots – Synthesis/History/Sophy
Synthesis - the integration of separate material or abstract entities into a single
or unified whole
History - what has happened in the past; a detailed description of past events as
relating to a particular people, country, period, etc…
Sophy - Greek root: wisdom, knowledge; an intellectual system embracing
knowledge and truth; study of the real world based on fact and truth, science
As you know, the USA today is a very polarized society. Technology in the Digital Age can be challenging. It can also be an avenue for us to interact despite differences in viewpoints and geography. That is the role of Synthisophy, integrating the wisdoms of history based on fact and truth into present culture. To foster an understanding of the real world, it’s important to learn about points of view which don’t match your own.
Citizens are the crux of democracy, an educated and well informed citizenry is vital for the survival of a democratic republic. As Benjamin Franklin said after exiting the Constitutional Convention and was asked what sort of government the delegates had created, his answer was, “We’ve given you a Republic, can you keep it?” With synthisophy in mind the answer to his question is “Yes, we can.”
"We've given you a Republic, can
you keep it?" Ben Franklin after
the Constitutional Convention
"If we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed
ourselves." Abraham Linclon
"United we stand, divided
we fall." John F. Kennedy
Inaugural speech
"I believe, as I always have,
that America's strength is in
'We the People.'" Ronald Reagan
Here are the latest discussions:
What do you think? Former Trump adviser Peter Navarro was arrested by the FBI on Friday following charges brought by federal prosecutors for criminal contempt of Congress after he refused to cooperate with the House panel investigating the Capitol riot. Here’s a statement from Carl Bernstein, 6.3.22, on Anderson Cooper 360, CNN, in response to the indictment of Peter Navarro.
I think the Navarro indictment is a big deal in that it indicates the defiance of all the people around Donald Trump to tell the story of what happened and especially the story of attempting to keep Joe Biden from succeeding to the Presidency. Everything goes to January 6th, goes to 1:00 PM January 6th, which is the only time specified in the law which the President of the United States can be formally elected. And everything that Trump did, everything that Steve Bannon advocated, everything that the lawyers around Trump tried to do was to prevent that election from occurring on January 6th at 1:00 PM. And that includes trying to get Pence out of the picture, so Pence could not preside over the duly elected President of the United States to take office. So what we have is really a seditious President of the United States who is trying to foment insurrection to keep his successor from taking office, staging a coup. What the January 6th committee is doing is establishing a time line that will show definitively how Donald Trump, his lawyers and those closest to him attempted to stage this coup so there would be no real election of the President of the Unite States and Trump could continue to be in office.
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What do you think? Here are statements and testimony from the first hearing of the January 6th Committee, 6.9.22:
Statement from Former Attorney General William Barr presented by the Committee: “I repeatedly told the President on no uncertain terms that I did not see evidence of fraud that would have affected the outcome of the election.”
Statement from Ivanka Trump presented by the Committee commenting on Barr’s statement that the department found no fraud sufficient to overturn the election: “It affected my perspective. I respect Attorney General Barr, so I accepted what he was saying.”
Public statement by former Vice President Pence presented by the Committee: “I had no right to overturn the election. The Presidency belongs to the American people alone. And frankly, there is no idea more un-American than the notion that any one person could choose the American President.”
A statement from a federal judge in response to evidence presented by the Committee: “If President Trump’s plan had worked, it would have permanently ended the peaceful transfer of power, undermining American Democracy and the Constitution. If the country does not commit to investigating and pursuing accountability for those responsible, the Court fears January 6th will repeat itself.”
Testimony by Capitol Police Officer Carolyn Edwards who was at the Capitol on January 6th. She was in the first responder unit. She was asked to share one memory of that day that stands most vividly in her mind. Her was her response: “I can. The time when I talked about falling behind MPDS lines. I remember because I had been kind of shielded away because I was holding those stairs, so I was not able really to see what was going on. When I fell behind that line and I saw – I can just remember my breath catching in my throat because what I saw was just a war scene. I could not believe my eyes, there were officers on the ground. You know, they were bleeding, they were throwing up, I saw friends with blood all over their faces. I was slipping in people’s blood, I was catching people as they fell. It was carnage, it was chaos. I have never in my wildest dreams thought a police officer, as a law enforcement officer, I would find myself in the middle of a battle. I am trained to detain a couple of subjects and handle a crowd. But I am not combat trained. And that day, it was just hours of hand to hand combat. Hours of dealing with things that were way beyond any law enforcement officer is ever trained for. And I just remember that moment of stepping behind the line and just seeing the absolute war zone that the west front had become.”
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What do you think? A bipartisan group of senators unveiled an agreement on principle for gun safety legislation on Sunday (6.11.22) in the wake of mass shootings in Buffalo, New York, and Uvalde, Texas. The chief negotiators of the deal are Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., and Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas. The announcement includes the support of 10 Republican senators, which would give the proposal enough support to overcome the Senate filibuster. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said (6.14.22) that he will support passing a bill that would reform gun laws if the text matches the framework proposed in the agreement.
Here’s a brief summary of that agreement:
‘Red flag’ laws are aimed at keeping guns out of the hands of those who pose a threat to themselves or others.
Mental health and telehealth investment to increase access to mental health, suicide prevention programs and other support services.
Closing the so-called boyfriend loophole which deals with whether unmarried partners could keep guns if they were found guilty of violence against a dating partner.
Enhanced review process for buyers under 21 - a more thorough review process for people between ages 18 and 21 who go to buy a gun like an AR-15.
Clarifying the definition of a Federally Licensed Firearm Dealer - require more firearm sellers who are proven to be “engaged in the business of selling firearms” to register to become Federally Licensed Firearm dealers.
School security resources to help institute safety measures in and around primary and secondary schools, while also supporting school violence prevention efforts and training for school employees and students.
Straw purchasing penalties on "straw purchases" by people buying weapons for others who could not pass a background check.
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What do you think? Here is testimony from the fourth January 6th Hearing (6.21.22) on the Capitol attack and the 2020 Presidential election. The following are interchanges between Representative Adam Schiff of California and Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers:
SCHIFF: Speaker Bowers, thank you for being with us today. Before we begin with the questions I have prepared for you, I want to ask you about a statement that former President Trump issued, which I received just prior to this hearing. Have you had a chance to review that statement?
BOWERS: My Council called from Arizona and read it to me, yes.
SCHIFF: And in that statement, former President Trump begins by calling you a RINO, and then references a conversation in November 2020 in which he claims that you told him that the election was rigged, that he had won Arizona. Did you have such a conversation with the President?
BOWERS: I did
SCHIFF: And that part that I read to you, is that false?
BOWERS: Anyone who said that I said that the election was rigged, that would not be true.
SCHIFF: And when the former President in a statement today claimed that you told him threat he won in Arizona, is that also false.
BOWERS: That is also false.
SCHIFF: Mr. Bowers, I understand that after the election you received a phone call from President Trump and Rudy Giuliani in which they discussed the result of the Presidential election in Arizona, particularly allegations of election fraud. During that conversation, did you ask Mr. Giuliani for proof of these allegations of election fraud he was making?
BOWERS: On multiple occasions, yes.
SCHIFF: And when you ask him for evidence what did he say?
BOWERS: He said they did have proof. I asked him, do you have names? He said they did have proof. He said they have 200,000 illegal immigrants, five or six thousand dead people, et cetera. I said, do you have their names? Yes. Will you give them to me? Yes. The President interrupted and said give the man what he needs Rudy. He said, I will.
SCHIFF: So Mr. Giuliani was claiming in the call that there were hundreds of thousands of undocumented people and thousands of dead people who had reportedly voted in the election?
BOWERS: Yes
SCHIFF: And did you ask him for evidence of that?
BOWERS: I did?
SCHIFF: Did you ever receive from him that evidence either during the call or after the call. Or to this day?
BOWERS: Never.
SCHIFF: And at some point did Mr., Giuliani ask one of the other attorneys on his team to help him out with the evidence?
BOWERS: He did. He asked Jen Ellis. Do we have the proof Miss Ellis? And she said yes. I said I want the names, do you have the names? Yes. Do, you have how they voted? Yes, we have all the information. I said, can you get me that information? Did you bring it with you? She said No, it’s not with me, but we can get it to you.
SCHIFF: At some point did one of them make a comment that they did not have evidence but they had a lot of theories?
BOWERS: That was Mr. Giuliani.
SCHIFF: What exactly did he say?
BOWERS: He said we’ve got a lot of theories, we just don’t have the evidence. I don’t know if that was a gaffe or maybe he didn’t think it through…
SCHIFF: During any of the meetings, did anyone ever provide you evidence to affect the outcome of the election in Arizona?
BOWERS: No one provided me such evidence, ever.
SCHIFF: Did the President call you again in that later December?
BOWERS: Yes sir, he did.
SCHIFF: Did you tell the President that you support him, that you voted for him, and that you are not going to do anything illegal for him?
BOWERS: I did.
SCHIFF: Nevertheless, John Eastman, his lawyer called you and said he had a specific ask that would have required you to do just what you told the President you wouldn’t do, something that would violate your oath, is that correct?
BOWERS: That is correct.
SCHIFF: And what did Dr. Eastman want you to do?
BOWERS: That we should re-certify the electors because we had the authority to do so. I don’t recall him saying sufficient evidence, but there was strong reason to do that. I said again, I took an oath and to do that would be counter to my oath. He said, my suggestion would be to just do it and let the courts figure it all out. I declined.
SCHIFF: And you told Dr. Eastman you did not believe there was legal support to justify what he was asking, but he still wanted you to do it, effectively let the courts work it out?
BOWERS: I said you should know there’s no way that could happen.
SCHIFF: In your view what he was asking you to do would have violated your oath to the Constitution of both the united states and the state of Arizona.
BOWERS: Yes, sir.
SCHIFF: We just heard in that video and aide to the White House Chief of Staff telling the Committee that the White House Counsel’s office felt that this fake electors plan was not legally sound. Nevertheless, the Trump campaign went forward with the scheme anyway. Speaker Bowers, were you aware fake electors had been in Phoenix on December 14th to cast electoral votes for President Trump?
BOWERS: I was not.
SCHIFF: When you learned these electors had met and sent the electoral votes to Washington, what did you think?
BOWERS: Well, I thought of the book, The Gang that Can’t Shoot Straight. I just thought this is, this is a tragic parody.
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Source: https://www.c-span.org/video/?521075-1/fourth-hearing-investigation-capitol-attack&live